Proposal for the AGM
I found two heavy large letters on our doorstep today which must have cost the class considerably in postage again so I have a proposal that I'd like the committee to take forward (as I can't attend the AGM) which is to introduce a new class of membership - JOINT membership for two members living at the same address and charged at a bit less than two full memberships (e.g. £40 instead of £50) but carrying the same rights as two full members (either can helm at an event) but receiving only one set of mailings, magazines etc. Whether it would carry two votes or one at the AGM is up to the committee.
Just a thought.
Andy Hay - Business as Usual
Slightly off piste, but the N12 has a rather funky boat database which is the natural extension of where this thread takes you.
Ahh, but have they got a mobile app for it as well?
totally support the boat database idea, the N12 site works really well and it's great when researching boats to buy!However, suggest we talk to them about the time, effort and technology needed to keep it up to date first... printing might be cheaper?!
I like having a book to flick through, but we don't need two either.
Another grey boat!
I for one would prefer a book, and am happy to pay or it. Money saving is all very well, but what does the association intend to do with the pile of cash it is amassing?
I tend to agree with Ian, I prefer to have a book as well. There is far too much emphasis these days of let's put things on line: where any skilled person can access it.
I am very much in favour of keeping the Year Book. I find a hard copy easier to brouse and it is immediatly to hand. Visitors also find it interesting. Regarding the Data Base - the N12 base houses a wealth of information on the history of individual boats which is constantly being updated. Much of M/R boat data and individual history has been lost. Had we this sort of data base Dougal would have found it a great help in researching his new book.
12s still publish a lot of paper based content. Yearbooks, newsletters and every few years a damn great book with everything about all the boats.
There are actually not very many members where 2 copies go to same household, some people actually want it that way
I like the Yearbook and think it would be a shame to loose it. I am still a little disapointed that we lost the fixtures book. I would much rather have the book than a database and that is coming from the person who has to creat the book every year!!
PLEASE KEEP THE BOOKS AND THE PAPERWORK, SAILING SEEMS MORE TANGIBLE WHEN YOU HAVE A PICTURE ON A PIECE OF PAPER. ITS PART OF THE SUCCESS OF THE BOAT, YOU TAKE YOUR OLD MAGS ON HOLIDAY WITH YOU AND LEAVE THEM FOR OTHERS TO PERUSE, I TAKE SOME TO THE DOCTORS SURGERY TOO ! AND THE PIC OF PAT & JILLY IN THE NEW MAG WOULD NEED A VERY BIG SCREEN TO DO IT JUSTICE.
I too would like to keep the paper book (and only one copy each year) but, as a professional database designer, would also like to see an online version with the yearbook data, plus space for owners past and present (MROA members only) to add more of the story about each boat, with each entry having date from, date to, owner and text and allowing as many entries as required. That way owners could log championship wins, refits and other notable events in a boat's life as well as ownership. Something of a blog for each boat maybe with possibly images too?
The comitee discussed this recently, and decided to retain the hard copy of the yearbook and not open the can of worms that is on-line data storage, however joint membership has NOT come up at a comitee meeting yet, though the possibility of sending one magazine to multiple member addresses has been mooted. This new membership category would seem like a sensible option.
Handbooks and Newsletters are tangible items that add value to being a member. Take that away, and put it on the web and some members would be alienated. the web isn't for everybody.
Actually, both would be good. We scrapped three orphan N12s at Earlswood in 2009 and thanks to this thread I have been able to go and update the N12 database.
Andy Hay - Business as Usual
Not sure that my original post suggested scrapping the Yearbook - I love the paper copy.