PY for 2013
Anyone know the real numbers for 2013? I seem to have different handicaps for the one boat: Burghfield (102), Brightlingsea (994) and Queen Mary (?) all seem to be different...
102 would be a number based on the cvrda system which starts from the old 3 figures from 1965 era. Not sure what 994 would be ,is it the current modern merlin py (thought that was 1002)? The de May vintage series runs off their own system but are not for interclass racing as they onl;y relate one merlin to another. The graded 'old merlin' pys are advertised on this website somewhere and are what should be shown to your club handicapper for club racing. deMay pys also on this website. but the bottom line is that it's up to the club handicapper to set pys.
according to the merlin graded pys 2013 should be 1002+60=1062. a handicapper may or may not take originality vs updatedness into account.
The 2012 Merlin handicap was 102. Clubs are able to vary this for their local conditions so Brightlingsea may have set a lower Handicap and Quenn Mary used the "Great Lake" handicap for the Bloody Mary. At Whitstable we have been using 1000 since the introduction of the modern spinnakers. However to answer The original question by Chris, I don't think the 2013 numbers have been announced yet. The new PY table is usually published just before the Dinghy Show.
I appreciate that the Merlin Rocket class association are trying to encourge older boats to race, but is it really a Class Association's right to unilaterally invent an adjusted PY? PY's are calculated by the RYA and may be adjusted by clubs (i.e. the race organiser). It is not the privelage of a class to make their older boats more cometitive at the expense of other classes and competitors.
I think you will find all handicaps are advisory and it is up to the individual clubs or event organaisers to adopt what ever handicaps they like. A number of associations have produced handicap systems for older boats and the Cvdra have one based on the old 1960s 3 figure numbers. If you look at the small print on the RYA system they suggest that individual clubs alter the numbers to suit there conditions or something like that.
Just a few years back, I ended up working very closely with the Scorpion Class in order to produce a well researched and informed 'mega article' on the 50 years of their Class history.In my conversations with various Association members, there was a great deal of discussion about the issue of how to become more inclusive for the older boats that had been very much 'left behind' by first the Gosling and then the FRP developments in hull technology and shape (some of the variation in hull shape would be classed in the merlins as a 'new' design). This though is not an issue that is unique to the Scorpion Class, 505s and Phantoms are just two well established 'one design' classes that are working actively to address this growing issue whilst in the restricted classes, the line taken by the MR is seen as an enlightened view of a way forward.
Mildly Disgruntled Scorpion
Not denigrating anyone. The point is that CLUBS can alter PYs to suit local conditions, but it not really the aim of the scheme to have class associations (i.e. those with vested interestes) recommending/suggesting/publishing them. That is fine for intra-Merlin contests, and fine for CVRDA type events. But less fine when entered in to, say, a club championship, especially if said 'old boat' only contains the thwart of the original. Should Merlins without 3dl sails be given PY boost too?
RE:>>Should Merlins without 3dl sails be given PY boost?
Well MDS... welcome to the enlightened world of Merlin Rocket sailing!
Well said Graham
There are no numbers for the 2013/14 season yet.