Nyaminyami! (cant say it never mind spell it!)
09/01/2010 20:12:21 d.h. | After many hours trawling around picking up heaps of junk or bidding against Mr Blake on E-bay,finally ive got a classic merlin!2427 ghost rider,everything is there but sails,It looks like the mast is a B section.I know it won the champs in 71,but can anyone throw any more light on it please?I will need some rags at some point,it has a very small chute,has anyone tried a current rules kite or do they last 5 mins,presume it would have a 3.15 or so jib and 2400 main as it has no certificate. thanks phil |
10/01/2010 08:37:12 rob 3708 | The RYA should have a certificate for the boat, that will tell you what it originally had as a sail plan. |
10/01/2010 10:55:13 Tony Lane | I may be able to put you in touch with Francis if you e-mail me with your phone no. |
10/01/2010 13:14:51 Graham D | If interested I have a suit of sails inc kite, and a boom if interested give me a ring 07775 664104 |
10/01/2010 13:47:43 former whitstable pro | I awarded some prizes at the '71 champs and had the same pronunciation problem - too late I was told that the n's were silent , hence yami -yami . |
10/01/2010 18:06:27 d.h. | thankyou all for the replies,bizarrely I have2500 and 3190 (ext Mr T Lane) in for repair at the moment,the two ghosties look very different though, is 2500 a 2? I have to say 2427 is in fabulous condition for a forty year old boat,I removed the deck and gunwhales yesterday (cascamite had given up!),they will go straight back on as they very cleanly popped off.The old girl is so original even down to the kicker wheel!I will try to put some pics on the site,Regards the name, does anyone remember if it was stuck on with the letters you bought from the local Ironmongers? (thats whats on it now,looks awful) its been put on the bow stbd side. I'd like it to look like it was when Francis won in 71 as the aim is to do the 2011 champs in her.workshop no is 07973 720732 anytime really mon -sat rgds phil scott. |
10/01/2010 23:11:38 ;) | Interested in the reccomended pronunciation 'yami yami' - the boat didn't originate from near Dudley by any chance? |
11/01/2010 12:14:28 Robert Harris | I met Derek Scheffer a few weeks ago, he crewed Francis Williams when they won the 1971 Championship at Plymouth in 'Myaminiyami'. |
11/01/2010 12:42:44 Barry D | Derek Sheffers number is 01590 678742. I am sure he can give you lots of information. |
11/01/2010 12:59:05 Pat2121 | 2121 has a small chute too and the old soft kite is fine. However we tried a newer, stiffer and thicker kite and managed to rip a section out whilst hoisting. Try one and see but if it sticks don't just haul harder as we did! |
11/01/2010 14:00:38 fribbs | Spray everything with ie shute and kite with McLube spray first. |
11/01/2010 22:00:04 d.h. | the names been googled by mr martin apparently its a south african river god, perhaps a black country tribesman came up with that one!! |
12/01/2010 11:56:49 Dave Norris | Yo cor blerm us.Us Black cuntry gents do ave Marelins. |
12/01/2010 11:57:37 Dave Norris | They dow fit ont cut |
12/01/2010 17:06:26 ITK | In my experience the river gods hand out pleasure and pain in equal measure but only if you take the long term view... |
12/01/2010 17:36:19 Chris Martin | The Nyaminyami (Zambezi River God) is a Zimbabwean legendary creature created by the Tonga people. The Nyaminyami is a dragon like creature with a snake's torso and the head of a fish.[1] |
12/01/2010 17:59:38 Chris Rathbone | I believe that Francis called his boats after lengendary sea creatures. His boat prior to Nyaminyami was an "Outrage" design called Kraken. I believe it was Derek who won the boat and not Francis (who as memory serves was a tad underwhelmed to be woken and to hear that they had won a boat in the early hours of the morning!). Silver Ghost was,(as a name), I guess a compromise. |
12/01/2010 19:30:52 d.h. | please ...... nobody break the dam!!! |
12/01/2010 20:03:12 ;) | An article from the Exemouth paper suggests there was a Contessa 32 called Nyaminyami used by Francis' parents Howard and Betty in the mid 1970s |
13/01/2010 09:31:25 Robert Harris | I was recently walking through a boatyard in Lymington (Berthon I think) and came across a yacht out of the water called 'Nyaminyami', she must be that Contessa 32. |
19/01/2010 10:03:04 Dalby Sister #2 | Hello D.H. - I'll call you later, but you might want to give my pops a call. He has a piece of mast section that may be of interest. His number is in the merlin book. |
12/02/2010 07:53:04 d.h | nearly finished the old tub bar the varnishing and fitting out,but what do you insure a 40 yr old boat for? 80 hrs spent roughly and she looks well,but if she got damaged beyond repair where do you find a replacement? I was thinking about £2000 as it will have a carbon rig and decent sails,but then that puts the boat at about 500 quid,what do the other classic guys do? any ideas folks??? |
12/02/2010 09:16:08 Richard Battey | I'd be interested to know as well as my old girl is slightly different to what she was 2 years ago with a few mod cons. CVRDA might give a better idea of values to insure. |
12/02/2010 10:20:50 Pat2121 | My forty year old Merlin is insured with Bluefin (Bishop Skinner) for a grand, excluding trailer and trolley which are itemised seperately. Can't tell the premium as the policy covers other boats too. |
12/02/2010 10:22:28 Pat2121 | Oh and that's original rig and format, no modernisations. Carbon's going to cost you more too. |
12/02/2010 11:33:57 Jez3645 | I have just been looking on Bishop Skinner at quotes for my boats as I am about to insure my OK. They are cheaper than Craft Insure who my Merlin is with but massivly more for my Merlin? |
12/02/2010 14:02:57 Andrew M | I guess it will work like this: if you can justify a higher insured value and agree it with the insurer, then that is what they will insure you for but will charge you more premium. After spending an amount of money that I remain vague about when questioned by my wife, I insured my MGB for an agreed value of £8,000 when it had previously been insured for £4,000. Next year as it is 3 years on I will have to submit another valuation form and confirming photographs. |
12/02/2010 21:43:35 d.h | thanks folks,replies much appreciated,Doc your scenario regards damage is exactly what bothered me,il'l try the figures i think is fair and let you know rgds phil |
10/03/2010 19:41:43 kevin Haynes | Having crewed and then to have been fortunate enough to have helmed one of these fantastic boats, they where one of a kind. The first five to be built at Rowsell Brothers did not measure due to the rise of floor, and mine had to have the keel planed down after it was varnished ect.The first five built all whent on to do well in the champs or the Silver Tiller.The first one ever built was for Dave Robinson at the 1970 champs very windy,he finished in the first ten I think. The next five where built in 1971, with all the rock at the back for a heaver helm.It will be interesting to see how well it will go with a moden rigg. |
11/03/2010 09:25:46 Rob Wilson | Kevin, Its ages since we have spoken - too long! Can you send me your email address? It would be good to catch up. |
21/03/2010 09:08:59 D.H | thanks for the info kevin,much appreciated,when its finished ,ill see if my dear friend pete scott can lure you out of retirement, perhaps he might crew for you at trent valley?regards phil scott |
21/03/2010 09:17:19 D.H | sorry ,i meant to post this ages ago, had aquote with nobles,for£2500-£3000 it would cost me around 150quid, i think thats pretty reasonable,just supply them with some photos to prove condition. |
28/07/2013 23:22:25 David Fox | I used to crew this boat with the late Eric Smith at Notts County sailing Club when they sailed at Stoke Bardolph between 1980-84. If I remember right, it was Eric who put the letters on the bow following a winter in his garage being sanded and having multi-layers of varnish applied. It did look fantastic when it was finished. I can still remember the rollocking I got when I couldn't fend it off quick enough from the jetty and it took on a polishable scuff. |
29/07/2013 07:27:32 Chris M | Still not finished but not far off! |
30/07/2013 12:59:06 Dave Fox | Where will you be sailing her? Would be nice to have a nosey. |
30/07/2013 15:59:27 Chris Rathbone | Hi All, |
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