Hi all, This time in 4 weeks we will all be thinking about packing for Salcombe week and what a fab week we shall have. To save spoiling it at the outset this is a quick reminder that we will be checking certificates (for real this year!). To help you out I have been through the class records and the entry list and confired with the RYA and the following boats either have no certificate or incorrect ownership registered. These need to be sorted before registration at Salcombe please.
Posted: 06/06/2012 12:19:18
It has been brought to my attention that at least one of these boats has already updated and received their new Certificate from the RYA, however the RYA do not seem to have updated their own records. The owner has sent me a copy of said certificate for my records and he is now up to date as far as I am concerned.
Posted: 07/06/2012 10:42:09
3541 & 3698 being actioned. Thank you.
Posted: 11/06/2012 10:42:03
do you need to include the original certificate?
Posted: 11/06/2012 10:50:09
I would say it makes Andy's job a little easier but it is not essential. He has a record of all the certificates anyway.
Posted: 11/06/2012 10:53:36
Reading the small print on the RYA site
Posted: 11/06/2012 13:12:27
By: Jon (3682)
Better stop changing your boat so often then Jon!!
Posted: 11/06/2012 13:27:21
Sure thing Jez. Sent mine off to sir on Sunday.
Posted: 11/06/2012 14:20:28
By: Jon (3682)
Excellent, did you sell Chracker in the end then? I thought you where keeping her? Lovely, you should post some pictures of the new one as it progresses, people seem to like to follow them.
Posted: 11/06/2012 16:09:12
Not sold just loned on a permenant basis.
Posted: 11/06/2012 19:20:21
By: Jon (3682)
How often does the buoyancy endorsement need to be done? Is it every year?
Posted: 12/06/2012 09:18:39
By: John Buckley
Yes, Officially they should be done annually. With these modern moulded boats it has become a little less important and so there is no actual test anymore. All you need is for a club official or association official to vouch for you. I would be happy with a respected long standing member of the class too.
Posted: 12/06/2012 10:20:31
I would be gratefull if you could let me know when you have applied for your new certificate so I know where we stand.
Posted: 12/06/2012 10:24:59
‘Interesting’ bump in the RYA defined buoyancy endorsement process. The buoyancy endorsement can only be signed by the owner. So if you lend your boat you need to make sure you’ve signed the endorsement. If the bloke you lend the boat to turns up to an event without it there’s nothing they can do to get it sorted, in the olden days a friendly measurers or club official could sort it.
Posted: 12/06/2012 11:57:21
Sorry, you are right that the owner needs to sign it, but it then needs to be 'witnessed' by an official. That is my understanding of it anyway.
Posted: 12/06/2012 12:42:14
Posted: 12/06/2012 16:40:55
Apologies in advance
Posted: 12/06/2012 17:27:34
Posting mine tomorrow
Posted: 12/06/2012 17:46:08
By: Richard (3233)
Must have missed you off the list Richard, unless you have only just entered.
Posted: 12/06/2012 17:48:42
Mine went into the post today :)
Posted: 12/06/2012 17:52:42
Cheers Martin. I hope they do have an influx!! Missed you off my list too for some reason. Think I am going to have to go through it again!
Posted: 13/06/2012 09:02:44
Deep Thought's in the post today
Posted: 13/06/2012 09:59:01
By: Martin & Jemma 3451
Jeremy - yes, only just entered last week.
Posted: 13/06/2012 11:30:23
By: Richard (3233)
There is a couple more boats that havecome to my attention.
Posted: 14/06/2012 10:34:34
Sailor, So who is sailing your boat ?
Posted: 14/06/2012 11:31:15
By: RH .
3723 confirmed that it is being dealt with.
Posted: 14/06/2012 13:58:23
Mr jez, how come you are in a position to say that a 30 yr old boat doesn't have a certificate when the owner has one issued by the RYA with every sticker on it for the last 30 years. What is your source?
Posted: 14/06/2012 18:47:26
Posted: 14/06/2012 19:03:10
By: Chris B
Thanks Chris b but the question was to mt Jezebel not the floor. How come he has no record when the certificate is physical and has been for 30 years. What is his source?
Posted: 14/06/2012 19:45:35
Posted today for 3650.
Posted: 14/06/2012 20:14:45
By: Rich adams
3146 being posted tomorrow
Posted: 14/06/2012 21:05:53
phil, my source is Andy Wibroe in the Tech Dept at the RYA. So you have a certificate for your boat with your name on it? If you have then scan it in or post me a copy and I will raise it with the RYA as i have for another member. If, however, it has the previous owners name on it, it is not worth the paper it is written on. Sorry.
Posted: 14/06/2012 22:01:16
Thanks Luke, thanks Rich, i hope you get your mast sorted.
Posted: 14/06/2012 22:02:48
Oh, and by the way philys, my name is Jez, not Jezebel!
Posted: 14/06/2012 22:04:20
Thanks for the info JEZ, I am surprised RYA are allowed to pass on this personal info. The certificate is most certainly not in my name , that would required some administration , but I was surprised that RYA had no record of certification when I clearly have one..
Posted: 15/06/2012 09:40:15
Posted: 15/06/2012 09:55:44
By: Alex 3556
Sadly cant make Salcombe and Jez seems to be doing a great job - its just that for some of us who have spent our lives 'railing against authority' (or the facile acceptance of authority) it all seems a bit draconian - dont worry, most of us will get over it! best etc
Posted: 15/06/2012 10:09:26
Alex, no having a go, not going to sallcombe, and no would not have updated ther certificate...it's not particulary high on my agenda, and I dontbreallybthink it would have stopped me sailing..come on, it's just a fun family sailing week
Posted: 15/06/2012 10:16:48
Phil, the chances are that if the certificate you have is over 30 years old they don't keep records that long. As keeper of the class records it is my responsability to maintain a record of all the boats that are part of our class. Sadly these records are out of date and when they are up to date I will have a copy of all up to date Certificates. However, I only get sent copies when they are renewed by the RYA and so if yours has not been renewed for 30 years I will not have a copy. It is also a legal resposability for all boat owners to register their boats with the RYA in order to sail them in the class.
Posted: 15/06/2012 10:27:21
Come on people give Jeremy a chance and great credit for taking his own time to get the class records up to date and the class in good order. To keep us honest.
Posted: 15/06/2012 11:31:49
Thank you for the recognition.
Posted: 15/06/2012 11:41:57
Sorry that should read 'Current Certificates'
Posted: 15/06/2012 11:43:00
Got mine back today from the RYA.
Posted: 15/06/2012 12:12:27
By: Jon (3682)
Jez, keep up the good work, I don't really sail anymore so it's all a bit off my radar. I think you are doing a splendid job.
Posted: 15/06/2012 12:12:37
Thanks Phil, and thank you for lending your boat out too.
Posted: 15/06/2012 12:23:52
Three days turn round, posted 12:10 Tuesday recieved today!
Posted: 15/06/2012 18:30:35
Posted: 15/06/2012 18:33:43
Seems that you got a lot of boats up to date , well done Mr Deacon, paperwork is very important that its all in place
Posted: 16/06/2012 08:12:17
By: Martin Hunter
Very True Martin. I got yours through Yesterday!!
Posted: 16/06/2012 08:51:42
3599 Posted Yesterday
Posted: 16/06/2012 10:05:27
By: Ken D
Posted: 16/06/2012 10:22:34
Jez, - got 3451's new Certificate back on Friday(3 day turnaround).
Posted: 18/06/2012 09:59:59
By: Martin & Jemma 3451
Thanks Guys. Andy is doing an excellent job in turning these around.
Posted: 18/06/2012 15:51:25
Just spotted this topic - I'm the owner of 3657 you're trying to hunt down.... I will get the certificate update sorted this weekend - hopefully it'll be turned around before Merlin Week. Sorry for the trouble, I'm useless with admin!!
Posted: 19/06/2012 21:49:09
By: Anthony Lofts
As long as you have the chance o get it sorted, which you have. That is my aim. Thanks.
Posted: 20/06/2012 08:41:48
Just over a week to go now and this is likely to be your last chance to get these Certificates sorted. Most people have been very posative about this and I am sure we will not have to much of a problem, however there is still a couple outstanding.
Posted: 26/06/2012 15:12:18
3560 in post to RYA
Posted: 26/06/2012 20:37:51
Jez's post deleted by request.
Posted: 26/06/2012 21:12:43
By: Chris M
My post was removed, as asked, due to a couple of inacuracies in my wording! However the gist of it was as follows.
Posted: 27/06/2012 08:51:29
Posted: 27/06/2012 08:51:47