I want to put a pully on the top of the Centreboard case behind the spinnaker halyard cleat. I don't think would be screwed into anything that requires a water tight seal as would be the case if I were screwing into the front tank. thequestion is do I need to bed it down with silaflex or drill the holes and put the screws in. I have seen a pulley in a similar place on the recent Winder boats. BTW this is a Winder/Tales boat.
Posted: 03/06/2008 17:35:04
Whether it's really necessary or not everyone seems to do it! I would to be on the safe side.
Posted: 03/06/2008 17:58:56
Do you mean Sikaflex. If so it is indeed expensive, does go off once opened and it is totally over the top for a couple of screws. It is perfectly suited to large, tough jobs like laying a teak deck on a yacht! I would suggest ordinary silicon based bathroom seal, available at any hardware store or builders merchant. I completely fitted out one of the few (2?) amateur completed Winder Mk1s in year 2000, using bathroom seal on every fitting. It is number 3586 - still going strong and much loved.
Posted: 03/06/2008 18:16:39
By: Mike Fitz
Dave, may I ask why you want to put this cleat on? I guess the answer will be that you want the halyard to automatically cleat as you (presumably the helm) hoist?
Posted: 04/06/2008 08:57:35
By: Measurement Man
Just adding to GGGG's comments, as Chambulls has the pulley and Snakey B doesn't, in my opinion the 'no pulley' option wins due to the avoidance of accidental cleating on the drop.
Posted: 04/06/2008 22:20:30
By: Alan F
OK. As to the cleating on the drop we have had this arrangement on the RS400 for 5 years and never had a problem with it cleating once uncleated - dont know why. Hoisting is the motivation of adding the cleat. Generally my crew (Celia) hoists and it she who wants the pulley to ensure it quickly goes into the cleat. If I hoist there isn't a problem from the back it falls in neatly - even at it is currently.
Posted: 04/06/2008 23:59:00
While sailing in a boat with this pulley missing, it is a lot easier to be rolled after rounding the mark as the spinny takes an extra 3-4 seconds to get up. Also, you have to be in the boat to get it to cleat, rather than with the pulley you can hoist from the side if needed. I think that this outweighs the marginally longer dropping time, and if it really is nosedive conditions then i have never had a problem uncleating before removing most of the kite and leaving the pole on till rounding the mark.
Posted: 05/06/2008 09:34:12
The older Turner boats have the cleat on the c/b case and a bullseye under the thwart. This has never been a problem, easy to reach string to uncleat, doesn't cleat accidentally and can hoist from either side deck. Bullseyes are a much neglected fitting in my view as a pulley is fine as long as the lead is straight but it seldom is with the spinny halyard and it seems to me that tangles are much less common than with a block. So what about a bullseye further back, though I don't know where you would put it on the Winder OD
Posted: 05/06/2008 09:58:06
By: Andrew M