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Topic : Wanted: Twin poles, Shroud Adjustment Blocks

Hi,

I've currently got a single 2.3m alloy spinnaker pole set up. It works like a twin pole set up and the single pole has a clip on the outboard end that you need to unhook and re-hook to the new clew when gybing.

I'd like to upgrade this to twin poles so I'm looking for either a second alloy pole (25mm, 2.3m) to add to the existing or else a complete twin pole set up.

Anyone got anything suitable that they are willing to part with ?

Also looking for a shroud tensioning arrangement. Ideally the full system with all the various blocks and bits and pieces or at the very least some means of tensioning the port/starboard shrouds.

I have a "musclebox" for the forestay, but the port/starboard shrouds are fixed so I want to apply some rake they will go slack which is not really ideal.

Many Thanks, please reply to the email [email protected]


Posted: 25/08/2008 17:19:40
By: JohnB (3404)
See Ebay under Spinnaker poles. 2 listed, 38mm tapered x 2300.


Posted: 27/08/2008 21:00:02
By: Ebayer
Thanks - On the watch list.

They dont look tapered from the photos......


Posted: 28/08/2008 04:10:09
By: JohnB (3404)
They are tapered but difficult to show from a distance. New ends fitted this year. Poles are scratched but no dents or knocks.


Posted: 28/08/2008 06:45:17
By: Ebayer
From photos looks like they have piston clips at both ends. Would that be right ?...


Posted: 29/08/2008 04:02:34
By: JohnB (3404)
I fitted pistons so they could be used for any boat, I still have the balls to take the shock cord/rope if required.


Posted: 29/08/2008 06:44:15
By: Ebayer
Missed it


Posted: 07/09/2008 19:58:55
By: JohnB (3404)
Can anyone tell me where I can source aluminium poles to do the job? I think carbon will be ruinously expensive in these cash-strapped times. 25mm OD, 4.6M or 2x2.3M

Thanks agan, John


Posted: 01/10/2008 12:24:55
By: JohnB (3404)
Hi John
Z Spars have 25mm and 30mm tube with ends to suit, we may also have some tapered 38mm tube. Send me an email and i will check what we have.
Craig


Posted: 01/10/2008 12:49:12
By: Craig
Couldn't see the product at 25mm and 32mm on your site.  Can you give an idea of price for 2300mm long with a piston fitting at one end.


Posted: 01/10/2008 13:56:24
By: Garry R
Hi, P&B have the non tapered stuff off the shelf as far as I recall - I got the larger dia but I'm fairly sure its priced per metre on their web site, along with the fittings, clip, lined bush, etc


Posted: 01/10/2008 14:18:02
By: KM 2825
For cheap ally spinny poles go to Geo King Metals in Tooting High Street. Unfortunately not open on saturdays.


Posted: 01/10/2008 18:29:58
By: ..
Speed Sails also very helpful.


Posted: 01/10/2008 20:09:43
By: Richard S
We don't shout about making dinghy poles but most trade people ie Winders etc buy our pole ends. The pole ends (piston) retail at about £7.50 each, the tube, 32mm will be better is about £20.00 for the length you require. The biggest cost is carriage (£18.00) however if you are in no hurry our kids do the Mirror circuit and can normaly deliver foc. We also travel to the South coast once a month. Drop me an email if interested.
Craig Z Spars UK and Merlin Sailor (3688)


Posted: 01/10/2008 20:42:52
By: craig
Craig, Just mailed you....thanks. Seems 32mm is better than 25mm.


Posted: 02/10/2008 00:28:55
By: JohnB (3404)
Hi John
25mm over that length would be bendy! I will pick up my email when in work and come back to you.


Posted: 02/10/2008 06:37:40
By: craig
What governs the length of the spinnaker poles.  I have an old rules spinnaker and the pole I have came with the very old boat but think that it would have been from one of the tiny spinnaker days.  When I fly the larger spinnaker the pole I have doesn't allow it to clear the forestay/jib.  What length do I need for the old rules one?  Anyone help?


Posted: 02/10/2008 08:34:09
By: Garry R
Garry, 

I used to fly the "old rules" spinnakers you bought from me on a 2.3m pole. Set was pretty good, but the luff and foot were both a bit tight on a reach, suggesting a 2.3m pole was a bit long.

I think the early poles were 6ft from memory which could be a bit short for the circa 2000 spinnakers. The yellow and red one I remember as being quite long in the foot.

When I'm done with my upgrade I will have a alloy tapered 2.3m single pole in a fetching shade of blue that will be surplus to requirements. Only thing is I am not sure that BA will be able to transport it without bending it and I think the Edinburgh Glasshouse will not be as happy to store it for you as they were to keep a small spinnaker bag in their admin office !

FRom what I know of you and your vintage boats, I suspect an alloy spinnaker pole would be an anathema, but let me know if you want to give it a go.

Cheers, John


Posted: 02/10/2008 09:41:21
By: JohnB (3404)
We use old rules spinnaker on Half Cut usually with a 6ft pole (old boat, old measurement units) which came with her and we find that is generally the best though we have also used a 2.0metre pole 25mm diameter but this is far too bendy on a tight reach but nice when wind is light as it holds the kite out further.


Posted: 02/10/2008 13:45:10
By: Pat2121

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