On your marks - Which Winder?
I am planning on purchasing my first Merlin.
I'm really not sure how much differance the bow drop really makes, it's a big carve up for a 25mm lowering. With a £6k budget you're looking at a Mk1 anyway, you won't get a 4 for less than £8k.
Thinking further the rigs may pose more of a problem with a Mk1 than the hull shape, though to be fair you may well benefit from the stiffer superspar they were almost all supplied with anyway. 3561 could be a good buy though as it comes all Chipstowed up.
If going for the Mk1, I'd be inclined to go for Avalon Sunset as she has 2 suits of new sails supplied by the sailmaker, identical to the championship winning boat. If you could stretch that bit more, she has all the bits and knowing Charlie, will be well looked after. Failing that, the Snorting could be a good buy.
If you fancy a sail in our Merlin we are rescue boat one half of Sunday.
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Sorry I won't be out. I'm off to learn how not to drown when your yacht sinks!
I'm surprised no-one mentioned re-prioritising the car fund, and putting the money towards something more enjoyable!
Just to flag up that there are 2 of the rare and beautiful wooden Let it Ride's on the 2nd hand list at the minute. Maintaining a wooden boat is a bit more onerous and expensive, but I haven't seen anyone fondling the decks of a Winder boat and muttering compliments.
My understanding was that "Let It Ride" and "25 stone" were not compatible. Happy to be corrected...
I had a result of where I should be at the Looe champs with 26 stone on board in Storm Cloud. Obviously if it's light you suffer. The Winders are a little more accomodating with weight it must be said!
At one of the training weekends when he was still winning everything in the class, I had a conversation with Phil King about weight and hull shape, his view being that the gains from a fast-planing hull shape ("lightweight" design) were so great that even if you were not down to weight yourself you would only suffer in really light conditions. Glen and Davo were sailing at 24st in Rong Number if memory serves. Sails and mast make a lot of difference.
P.S. Heaven Sent (my boat for the last 5 years) is similar to the Let it Ride, though fuller under the mast with a bit more rocker. The flat very wide transom needs keeping out of the water in light winds and you will submerge a gunwhale at a lower angle of heel than the Winder boats so you have to keep the boat flat, making it a bit trickier to sail. Definitely a bit quicker in marginal planing conditions though and an excellent open water boat.
Agree with Andrew that sails and mast make a huge difference. But at the end of the day, if you buy a Winder (IV, V, whatever), you are dealing with a known quantity that has a proven to be a consistent performer in different types of water over a number of years. It depends what you want and, of course, your budget. If you want to be a bit different, then the Let it Ride is one option. Great to look at, perform well (in the right hands) and are robust. Personally, I wouldn't want the hassle of maintaining a wooden boat but that is just my opinion. The Winder boats, on the other hand, may not be as "aesthetically pleasing" to look at as wooden boats but their race record cannot be disputed and, perhaps most importantly, they are what the bulk of the fleet are sailing.
"they are what the bulk of the fleet are sailing"...
It would seem that the Canterbury Tails design was quite a step forward when it first appeared. However, at that time masts were aluminium & rigs in general quite a bit heavier than they are today also, at that time, control lines were not included in the hull weight.
Heavier weights will cope better with the SS mast, but a powered up chipstow should be better. I don't think crew weight actually had any bearing on why the bow drop was done, and we are afterall only talking 20mm.
Good stuff Chris - another for the growing Brightlingsea fleet
Nice. Congatulations. Was that 3666 that has gone from the list then?
Yup. Thats the one.
Excellent. Should be in good order that one. I notice that 3660 has gone this morning too, does that mean Dave has sold it? That could be an exciting prospect.
Great news Chris, gosh the start line will be even more crowded now! Malcolm Goodwin said he would purchase the 11th one if we ever got to 10, we are well on our way!
So does that mean that Devilled Kidney 3666 has eventually arrived at Brightlingsea and the RS400 fleet is no more?
Malcolm should build his own boat, alot cheaper and right up his street. Jacko has the templates for the Joy Rider and it would be great to see another one on the water, possibly kicking arse in the chop.
No idea who this "deviled body-part" might be, but certinaly MR 3666 will be at Brightlingsea from Easter onwards, with a much better name.