Ignoring the performance comparison for a moment…
Posted: 08/08/2006 16:33:59
Short answer is 'no'.The spinny has to be symmetrical as per the rules.
Posted: 08/08/2006 16:53:39
By: Ex CHairman
Someone made a joke once that you could make a legal sail, but just fold it in half to use as an asymmetric.
Posted: 08/08/2006 17:12:12
Alternatively, check out Dick Batts tuning guide, troubleshooting section - I quote:
Posted: 08/08/2006 17:13:04
What's a SMOD - I can only cope with TLAs and this smacks of Military Intelligence!
Posted: 08/08/2006 18:39:03
Posted: 08/08/2006 18:50:50
By: Nigel 3280
This sounds like one but not sure about the SM yet.
Posted: 08/08/2006 20:25:06
single manufacturer one design
Posted: 08/08/2006 20:29:59
O dear... not the answers I was hoping for. Shame.
Posted: 08/08/2006 20:44:05
Many moons ago (early 90's?) an asymmetric kite and bowsprit were put on a Merlin at Salcombe. I vaguely recall that it was trial sailed by only a handful of people, none of whom were impressed, before one of the more vigorous crews broke it.
Posted: 08/08/2006 23:39:38
By: The Old trout
Posted: 09/08/2006 09:57:30
Why not just go out and buy an old RS400, or is this too obvious
Posted: 09/08/2006 10:03:46
By: the easy option
Just a thought, but aren't RS400's a bit like a Merlin, except with an asymmetric?
Posted: 09/08/2006 10:04:47
D'oh! Beaten to it!
Posted: 09/08/2006 10:05:41
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Posted: 09/08/2006 11:14:44
Sorry Laser 2000?
Posted: 09/08/2006 11:31:54
Laser 2000 is another SMOD and quite dull, unless its really windy.
Posted: 09/08/2006 11:49:18
what about an old ISO. cheap and lots of fun ?
Posted: 09/08/2006 11:50:39
A Cherub of a certain age?
Posted: 09/08/2006 12:04:57
By: Yet another
Get a merlin (and a new crew if you have to) & come to the training, you wont regret it!
Posted: 09/08/2006 12:10:40
By: do this
lol, just take your crew to the training.
Posted: 10/08/2006 09:27:21
Alternatively get an International 14 - they've got symetrical kites but I find the Merlin spinnaker a little easier to handle......
Posted: 10/08/2006 12:13:35
The International 14s are a development class and according to their website they carry huge unlimited asymetrical kites on 11ft bowsprits! They're skiffs now and Stewart Morris would probably turn in his grave if he knew what they'd done to HIS class.
Posted: 10/08/2006 15:55:44
By: Robert Harris
Actually back in the 50s asymmettric spinnakers that were symettrical to the measurer (ie luff and leech the same length etc) were not uncommon in Cherubs. They were seam shaped so that the flow was in the front of the sail and probably a deal faster in a straight line. Quite how on earth one gybed the damn things, especially considering this was coupled with a 9ft spinnaker pole, I have absolutely no idea, but I imagine you timed gybes with the minute hand not a stopwatch...
Posted: 10/08/2006 21:24:46
What was the question? The solutions are so entertaining, and varied, but relevant? If the problem is the crew not getting on with a symetrical spinnaker, this may indicate a learning opportunity rather than a search for something different. As someone commented before - go to the Merlin training! Also, aren't there training guides on the seb site? An extremely helpful pamphlet on spinnaker handling by Mrs King got us sorted when we first started in Merlin - is that still available?
Posted: 12/08/2006 20:38:48
By: Mischief Maker
Of course - have a read of all 3 parts if you can.
Posted: 14/08/2006 09:23:04
Its much more to do with not wanting to have to learn than it is not understanding. She is 5ft nothing and less than 8 stone, she is also one of these people that just enjoys being on a boat and sailing, no particular interest in the technical aspects of it, its just meant to be fun not hard work and frustrating. Personally I love it when its hard work and frustrating but its meant to be fun for all
Posted: 14/08/2006 16:04:25
Have you thought about a Bosun...?
Posted: 14/08/2006 16:09:41
Ian - to get sensible answers, you will have to say what aspect of not being able to handle a symmetrical spinnaker applies. Then, if you can overcome the problem, do so. Too short? fit twin poles with strings to pull them out or if a single pole, fit a bar to stand on. Not strong enough? - ask the other girls in the fleet how they do it - none are exactly Russian shot putters!
Posted: 14/08/2006 16:33:40
By: mad jack
I sailed the 1998 nationals at Abersoch with just such a crew as you describe. It blew its **** off all week but we got round OK. I am sure you won't be sailing in such extreme conditions so it should not be a problem.
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Posted: 14/08/2006 17:14:32
The Star Class has managed for close on a Century without a Spinnaker. But then keeping the mast in the boat is pretty nearly a full time job.
Posted: 14/08/2006 20:01:34
By: Ancient Geek