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Topic : Mastermind competition

So far it seems we have been unable to ask a question on this forum that the Ancient Geek ™ has been unable to answer? Surely we can stump him?

Instead of asking about traditional techniques, do we need to quiz him about the very latest developments in the sailing world, to catch him out? Or do we have to go back to 1940 instead?

Can there be a subject he knows nothing about? Or is that blasphemy....


Posted: 24/03/2006 13:47:59
By: Mags
Ok Mags, here goes.

Who made a suit of sails for Graham Donald in the loft of Ranelagh SC for Emotion?


Posted: 24/03/2006 14:35:26
By: I should know - I ruined them!!
Mike Mac


Posted: 24/03/2006 15:55:54
By: Old Merlin Man
Which boatbuilder was the first to use 7 ply instead of 5 ply for hull building?


Posted: 24/03/2006 16:44:43
By: Analyst
George & Neville.


Posted: 24/03/2006 22:03:06
By: Antoine of Lymington
Who can explain the Sailing Term?- "Whitey's Hypothesis."
It is an essential part of winning a Yot Race.
The Shoreham Lad & JC just might have know if they had been in earshot of the Sockless One & the Pharmacist.
A liquid type wager says that the Ancient Geek does not know.
Half point for knowing who the Sockless One was if you never lived in Sussex.
4 Points for knowing who White was.
5 Points for answering the Question.
10 Points wins a bottle of Bubbly.


Posted: 24/03/2006 22:16:34
By: Beresford
Blame Bazz for all this !

If Cunningham got the credit for that little hole in the mainsail just above the gooseneck - then who should have got the Credit for the flattener hole in the leech.
Ancient Geek my old friend over to you.


Posted: 24/03/2006 22:21:37
By: Antoine of Lymington
I guess 'Whitey' was John White of SMYC but his hypothesis - no idea. In 1970 I went round the world on an Export Trade Mission with a gentleman who I think was John's father. 
'The Pharmacist' - 1962 Champs winner maybe?
'The Sockless One' - his crew?
I don't live in Sussex so I'll so how about a half a bottle of Bubbly for being more than 50% right (i.e. 4 1/2pts out of 9 1/2).


Posted: 25/03/2006 04:41:18
By: Genevieve
My questions - 
Who capsized in the lead at the first gybe mark in the first race at the 1962 Champs?
What was the boat's name and number?
Who was the crew?
A pint when we next meet to the first person with the correct answers.
The Ancient Geek is ineligble


Posted: 25/03/2006 04:52:51
By: Genevieve
Genevieve. Surely 4 out of 9 is 'less' than 50% right so no liquid refreshment deserved!


Posted: 25/03/2006 08:10:52
By: Analyst
Yes,I claim four and a half points, four for knowing John White and a half if I'm right about "The Sockless One ". Of course it will be only be four points if I'm wrong about him/her.


Posted: 25/03/2006 08:25:10
By: Genevieve
Well I do not claim to know everything but I do have a lot of useless or even "Interesting" stuff largely because I've always kept a diary and pictures, sketches and clippings in it.
I'll try to anwer some of this.
It ws Mike Mcnamara who's boat Emotiion was sold to Graham Donald and who would have made some nes sails for it, I remember both MM and Mikejackson used the Ranelagh Floor as sail lofts.
7 ply?
Given Antoine of Lymingtons answer I guess he's thinking Adur, however Nick Truman and his then emloyee Richard Debenham us 16' X 8' sheets (A bugger to handle!) made by the Reliable Plywood Company in East London -Where else!) that was 3 lomg ways venners 2 across and one each on each diagonal this was used for their first boat 1300 Mark Twain, 1451 Surf Scoter and 1523 Beat Nik after which the cost got to even Nick.
Sorry I have no knowledge of any of the Sussex Gossip.
Cunningham and his hole, Briggs Cunningham Star & 12 metre sailor gets the crdit but Bruce Banks when he was at Lucas sails did put a ring on the luff that did the same job, as to the leech it was i think Dave white at Seahorse sails who first put it on a 505 sail 50's had norious leech stretching probs in string winds.
G F slack did sell prescription medecines etc so ......
Sorry Sweet Genevieve I did not go to a Mr Champs untill 1963 I was doing my A levels in 1962 I did however lend the boat to the late Les Ward (Sometime motor racer owner of an SS100) and his wife Daphne (Some time Ice Dancer and ice skating judge.) I recall reading about the capsize but I regret as I wadn't there I have no diary entry. A wild guess would be 1455 Rakes Progress Peter Clayton, but maybe he hadn't colleceted it by then? He WAS first at a windward mark at Plymouth, i do know cos he never ceased to say so.
So I do not claim total recall but this is my first pass just off a plane.

It might be fun to get a PUB QUIZ going for the Bourne End celebration?
Perhaps
Genevieve/Grey Goose,
Antione,
AG
Could be moderators thus excluding them from the prizes!


Posted: 25/03/2006 16:04:42
By: Ancient Geek
No, you are all wrong. The first builder to use 7 ply was John Freeman who built the Wot boats!


Posted: 25/03/2006 18:58:36
By: Analyst
Answers etc, by the score - Sorry have gotta go - off to play grand-dads & escorting Judy to a Mothers day lunch treat at a Harvester Pub adjacent to the narrow bridge with Traffic lights in Cookham.
But will say I was not the "Sockless One" but I was the third one to hit the water in No.2 spot as we crashed into Robert & Helen's boat as they up ended in No.1 spot at the first lap gybe mark.
So Helen is the answer. The fourth one to get wet was himself at the back of Oui Oui.
More anon.
I cannot hear the Ancient Geek's answer yet. He will kick himself when he hears the answer. 2 legs?


Posted: 26/03/2006 09:19:49
By: Antoine of Lymington
I'me sure the wot Nots started in 1968? Mark Twain was 1960/1 But Truman was hardly a mass producer so I'll concede to mass production.


Posted: 26/03/2006 11:02:24
By: Ancient Geek
I live in Cookham, the pub is no longer a Harvester (thank goodness ), it's reverted to it's earlier name of The Ferry. One of the depuy manager's name has a familiar ring to it. Perhaps I'll walk in and unmask you.


Posted: 26/03/2006 13:25:31
By: Robert Harris
The flattener should be called the Anderson Hole. Andy Anderson was also first sailmaker to glue seams and, if im' not mistaken, the first to radial cut a jib! He was a very talented, ex bomber pilot who designed a vertical take off plane in the 1950's.


Posted: 26/03/2006 18:49:44
By: Analyst
Sorry Robert but I haven't been near Cookham since 1986 when I had dinner at trhe excellent Chinese Restaurant in the main drag.
I wouls surmise that the Anderson Aerosails leech thing is correct and Peter White borrowed it.


Posted: 26/03/2006 19:56:36
By: Ancient Geek
Analyst - Thought you were off to Crete!!!
Anyway you were far too young to know about "Whitey's Hypothesis".
Think you found an alternative strategy that was faster.
Surprised you have not made any comment about our late leader the "Sockless One'. Last time I saw him must have been 1984 in the Lamb in Angmering as feisty as ever.
The Lunch at The Ferry was excellent & the grand children behaved well.
Sorry Robert - should have slipped in & we could have a chat.
What's with the Bourne End Celebration. 55th or did I miss it. The Jungle drums get a bit faint down here. What I need is a bit of gossip to tell Francis Williams & Rick of blue sails fame when we meet this Wednesday lunch at R Lym.
I think it might be kind fellas if we had a collection/whip round & bought the Ancient Geek a Spell Checker.
What's with this moderator bit?
By the way Gales Ales of Horndean have been closed & our supplies will be coming from London. Luckily we still have Ringwood Brewery.


Posted: 27/03/2006 23:29:07
By: Antoine of Lymington
The Phamacist was eventually the owner of a Chemist Shop in BR & in indeed dispensed pills.  But this was not during his main sailing career when he worked for Loveridges of Southampton who were wholesalers and he was their Technical Pharmacist  selling pills, potions etc to the Veterinarians around the South of England.
A slight time correction to Genevieve's dates - Torquay 1992 - Practice Race was a ghost round the Bay in light airs-weaving in & out of the the bays avoiding the protruding rocks off Babbacombe in a big swell. Monday was spent exercising ashore because it blew big time. Tuesday the PRO girded his loins & went to sea, last minute nervous fag was soggy before the start, result good. Wednesday boats in P1 & P2 screamed off down the first reach with the pack in close pursuit & then went swimming at the Gybe mark. Robert's rudder decided to come off at that point. So we both had an early bath.[& beer] & no more discards.
Who lost his clothes & undies at Weymouth one evening 2/3 years later when everyone was going swimming but only he actually went for the swim ? The rest returned to the Bar with his duds!


Posted: 28/03/2006 08:09:54
By: Antoine of Lymington
'1992' surely 1962. Antoine needs a date checker.


Posted: 28/03/2006 08:53:11
By: Analyst
"MODERATOR" is "setter of questions and arbitrator on answers.
Psell chequer doeesb't work on this not 4 me anyway! As a slysedexic myself I use it automatically when I can.
Robert clearly has had rudder problems in the past then!


Posted: 28/03/2006 09:04:40
By: Ancient Geek

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