hello all, i am the proud owner of MR 3065, and i am looking for some info on the kind of proctor mast that was included with the boat when i bought it. it is keel stepped and it must be the original mast of the boat (1977) since it looks quite old. all i have is the serial number : 236 058 can anyone tell me what kind of section it is ?
Posted: 30/01/2006 17:34:08 By: 3065 |
If it has a flat back it's almost certainly a beta minus (long discontinued).
If its the usual, more pointy back then it's almost certainly a D section.
Posted: 30/01/2006 18:39:50 By: secondhandman |
Proctor D's are pear shaped the Betas are oval and as the man states are flat at the back. If you can measure it or take a photo we will all comfirm it for you all the best, Barry ps early d's were stenciled just that on the heel & proctor logo.
Posted: 30/01/2006 19:01:07 By: barry watkin |
OK, so it's probably a Beta. does anybody have the section properties of the Beta ? or what is closest section to that in the proctor range today, Kappa ?
I am going to build a carbon tube for my boat and i will just try to get the same properties as the existing alu mast.
Posted: 31/01/2006 12:52:40 By: 3065 |
Give seldons a call(proctors) I no longer have momemts of inertia for the Beta.
Posted: 31/01/2006 13:47:16 By: barry watkin |
Ps its a Beta Minus, there was also a Beta Plus used on F15 and alike
Posted: 31/01/2006 17:55:12 By: Barry Watkin |
The Beta minus is distinctive, with a flat back to the section either side of the sail track. When your boat was built there was a fair bit of experimentation on mast sections going on, with some lightweight flexible ones being used but those are likely to have broken long since! I have had a beta minus. The mast is generally pretty stiff but with a long thin tapering top section that bends off and depowers easily. The shroud attachment tends to be high, a fair bit higher than the jib block, to stiffen the topmast laterally and attempt to induce some prebend lower down.
Posted: 01/02/2006 12:57:25 By: Andrew M |
Only details i have from an old catalogue is for a Proctor Alpha depth 63.5 width 53.0 weight kg/m 0.92 stiffness figures depth 9.6 cms4 width 14.1 cms4, this section also appears to have a "flat back".
I owned Psychic for a couple of years, has she returned from france? If you are interested i have a photocopy of a Y&Y report of the 1977 London boat show where she was displayed reportedly getting the concourse d'elegance prize.
Posted: 02/02/2006 08:53:34 By: Other Chris |
Send a copy on to me as well, and I'll get in on the site.
Posted: 02/02/2006 09:20:46 By: Mags |
nope, Psychic is still a french boat, and she is soon to be fitted with a complete carbon rig, i have just finished the boom.
of course i'm interested in the Y&Y report ! if you could send it to jeremy(dot)palmer(at)wanadoo(dot)fr, that would be great !
Posted: 03/02/2006 18:08:55 By: 3065 |