Topic : Proctor Mk1 CArbon mast for repair

I have decided that I probably won't get around to repairing it, so I am now open for offers on my broken mast.

I have listed it on ebay for ease. please follow the link.


Posted: 02/01/2006 14:48:16
By: Alan F
As by now, you have 1/2 a day back at work and proabably bored as anything, tim eto bid on e-bay and dream about playing with expoxy, carbon, home made heat boxes with light bulbs, shrinking tape etc

Posted: 03/01/2006 11:44:33
By: Alan F
Stop tempting me!

Posted: 03/01/2006 13:42:18
By: Mags
So how much does Jacko actually want to fix it?

Posted: 03/01/2006 14:18:34
By: Jon
I don't know, I'll ask him, save you all sending him e-mails or phoning him.

Posted: 03/01/2006 15:51:29
By: Alan F
The commercial cost is just not viable for some breakages. Jacko advised me thus for my own one last year almost to the day.  My mast could fit into my Ford Focus after the incident.  

I sold the parts as is to a skilled person but have not heard whether it worked out or not.

Posted: 03/01/2006 18:04:14
By: Steve
Perhaps the bits can be used seperately? Is there enough to make a boom? Or is the tube not suitable for that?

Posted: 04/01/2006 09:26:06
By: Mags
I found it very useful for hooking the christmas clips light off the gutters the other day.

Estimate from Jacko - it would be a first class repair, trust me, I can't even see the join in my repaired Chipstow - fyi
Carbon Mast Repair Labour Materials
Proctor repair
To repair the two breaks in mast by restoring wall laminate £427.22 £55.13
To rebuild missing laminate £102.88 £6.62
To resin repair sail track as required £50.00 £50.00
To refit fixed fittings adjacent break £27.83 £3.31
Net £722.99
Carriage £0.00
Total Payable £722.99

Posted: 04/01/2006 10:58:45
By: Alan F
Struth! I just seen the pics can I add a meal in at the boat show?

Posted: 04/01/2006 11:24:08
By: shed bloke
Mags - it would make a lovely couple of king posts and a space frame for your deck-step conversion.

Posted: 04/01/2006 12:13:45
By: Jon
There a thought, if I don't get a decent price I can take that railway sleeper of a king post out of WAPB and replace it with a section.

Posted: 04/01/2006 12:54:46
By: Alan F
Lol,  that post is massive isn't it!!!

Posted: 04/01/2006 13:32:01
By: Jon
If that is the cost of the repair the money would be better of spent on a new super spars mast

Posted: 04/01/2006 15:19:08
By: T.C
Would I have enough left over for a boom too?

Posted: 04/01/2006 17:27:27
By: Mags
Because of the internal track, I don't think it would make a very nice boom for a loose footed sail.

Posted: 04/01/2006 18:29:11
By: Alan F
A commercial repair would be relatively uneconomic capared to a SuperSpars, you'd probably only be saving £100 to £200 pounds.

However, if you knew what to do and didn't charge yourself labour, you'd have a pretty decent mast for £100 - £200 inc materials

Posted: 04/01/2006 18:32:34
By: Alan F
Strewth expensive to repair. I also have a Chipstow in three pieces (think a spreader broke first).
Opted for a new Superspars fully rigged for a little ove £800 plus VAT.

Posted: 04/01/2006 23:16:06
By: Norman
Youve probably already thought of it but the other idea would be to hang on and find another mk1 broken in a slightly different area. Then mate the two better sections together, one simple-clean repair there appears to be too much distress in the fractured area. Or at the very least repair by inserting a new 1mtr length (two joins) Like so many jobs it's often timewise easier two build a new one than phaff about repairing, hence the pricing.
As a ps it's taken me almost as long to prepare/stiffen/refinish mine as it did to build it!

Posted: 06/01/2006 08:38:45
By: Barry Watkin
Was that mast broken by load at the top of the mast pulling forwards?

It looks like the forward bend of the mast had the effect of pulling the spreaders apart and splitting the section in two, causing the subsequent divorce of the 3 pieces.

Is this weakness caused by the internal track design?

Posted: 06/01/2006 09:19:16
By: Jon
I believe Alan and Natt used the tried and tested method of wedging the top firmly into the bottom of Chichester Harbour and bouncing the boat around a bit on the other end - worked for me with an alloy jobbie

Posted: 06/01/2006 09:25:34
By: Andrew M
It was at Whitstable silver tiller, where it was quite windy and the wave were quite big (I'm told unusually for Whitstable). Knowing from bitter experience at Hayling that if we let the mast hit the bottom in waves the mast breaks, we quickly recovered the capsize at the gybe mark only the be knocked over the other way whilst entering the boat - how the hell do you keep a boat head to wind whilst being bounced up and down 2 or 3 feet and trying to climb in I don't know, although I have been advised that the crew hanging off the spin chute might help I haven't tried that.

Unfortnately that second roll took the mast in in the direction of the tide and waves and as now being on the wrong side of the boat no chance to keep the tip from dipping to the sea bed.

I has occured to me that it might have only broken in one place above the spreaders if there was very little rig tension. As we had decided not to fly the spinnaker on the reach I may not have slacken the rig off after the beat. But there you go.

Posted: 06/01/2006 12:27:52
By: Alan F
That comment how to keep the boat head to wind when recovering from a capsize really makes me feel my age.  

The drill used to be
- crew swims bow head to wind.
- helm rights the boat
- helm enters via the stern and bails until water below centreboard case
- crew climbs over side whilst helm balances the boat
- finish bailing

Sad how these old craft skills get forgotten.

Posted: 06/01/2006 14:13:56
By: Bill
I'm very familiar with the drill, its putting it into practice, its pretty easy when the boat is say a Heron on a flat pond, but when it is a Merlin where the bow is bouncing 3 foot at a time and the helm only weights 8 stone so can't right the boat alone, thats were it gets tricky.

Posted: 06/01/2006 14:58:19
By: Alan F
So the helm goes to the bow and the crew gets the boat up?  Hopwever, as a helm, I agree that anything that leaves me in the water for longer is a lousy solution.

Posted: 06/01/2006 16:27:11
By: Bill
£722.99 for a repair im in the wrong buisness .Is that price for a vet as well? Bloody hell.

Posted: 09/01/2006 20:12:49
All broken carbon tube make good washing line post for the garden.

Posted: 09/01/2006 20:17:07
And here's the evidence...

Posted: 10/01/2006 09:12:35
By: Mags
Only 2 days left. Come on the adjustable spreaders & brackets are worth £70 new. Surely some one can take it above the £50 reserve!

Posted: 10/01/2006 10:26:29
By: Alan F
Cat, Bag

Posted: 10/01/2006 11:43:09
By: Jon
Well, for less than £50 the adjustable spreaders are going onto WAPB, and I might treat her to a carbon king post, and maybe even a carbon boom, but I'm thinking about the boom bit as I'm not sure about the sail track, I'll have to have a good look at the section..

Posted: 10/01/2006 12:12:42
By: Alan F
Change the auction to "carbon king post (3 available)"

Posted: 10/01/2006 14:15:21
By: Mags


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