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Topic : Rope takeaway system

Wanting to tidy up control lines in boat. Can anyone suggest an effective rope takeaway system and how it best works please? A picture would be best option!!

Thanks


Posted: 12/10/2005 12:09:42
By: Richard Battey
Which ropes do you want to tidy


Posted: 12/10/2005 12:34:22
By: Dave F
Dave,

Everything off the thwart.... 5 in total .... lowers, main, jib, kicker,downhaul.

Any thoughts?


Posted: 12/10/2005 12:44:16
By: Richard Battey
put a large ring under the deck, attach a shoch cord to the end of the rope and run to the stern and back to another rope. this works well.


Posted: 12/10/2005 16:09:24
By: Dave F
Sorry Dave....with me not being the sharpest tool in the box when it comes to practical solutions such as these .... where does the ring get fixed? Am I correct in assuming it is fixed under the deck behind the spinnaker sheet exit point? A rope is then fed through the ring, attached to a piece of shock cord, the shock is run round a multi block fixed to the transom just below deck level and back to the next sheet?

Thanks


Posted: 12/10/2005 16:23:05
By: Richard Battey
If I had my boat here I'd take a picture but alas it's having holes repaired from bala and more rope added!
But in short, the rope goes through a small hole in the side deck edges. (I know it's got a name as I saw it on discovery channel the other week but can't remember it!) Though a ring sounds like it'll work just as well and not involve drilling holes, then it is attached to shockcord and run right forward under the foredeck and back n forth a few times for good measure and back to the other tail on the the other side. Just use plastic bulls eyes or similar rather than pulley blocks as there's minimal friction and blocks can flip etc.
3 go forward - kicker, cunningham, prodder.
2 go aft - jib an shrouds

It's a very neat system and works really well, though some of the shockcord on mine needs replacing.

You can see where they go forward under the deck in the pic in the link.

http://www.smoothinternet.com/Merlin3428/InternalViewFromAft.jpg

Posted: 13/10/2005 00:47:02
By: Stuart
Jeez - have you really got 4:1 on your main?????


Posted: 13/10/2005 08:50:37
By: Jon
Just one thing model airplane elestic about 3/8" X 1/8"th of an inch in old money works better than shock cord, its cheaper stretsches more with less pull and is thus more elegent I have yards of the stuff all over my boat and its truly a life changer.


Posted: 13/10/2005 10:51:51
By: Ancient Geek
Good idea - I hate shock-cord for exactly that reason.


Posted: 13/10/2005 11:03:16
By: Jon
Hi Greek - why do you buy this stuff from then ? a model shop ?

Thanks


Posted: 13/10/2005 11:07:05
By: good idea !
Elastic from model shops is the power system for rubber powered model aircraft even to this day -  Ahhh - the early days of gluing things together!!  (After the ubiquitous Airfix Spitfire/Hurricane of course!!)
PS The Ancient Geek strikes again!!


Posted: 13/10/2005 11:16:05
By: Garry R
Ah yes, the fix from the smell of Balsa Cement, is it still a legal high I wonder?


Posted: 13/10/2005 20:12:09
By: Ancient Geek
BUCKET


Posted: 13/10/2005 20:50:46
By: Admiral
BATTEY THE BUCKET


Posted: 13/10/2005 20:51:16
By: Admiral
I believe that for aeromodelling it's Zap a Gap superglues nowadays - cyanoacrylates, so the kids (if they actually build model aircraft) get their eyelids and fingers stuck together rather than hallucinate!!  And it is strange how in aeromodelling it was radio controlled gliders (slopesoaring at Crook Peak in the Mendips a real joy) rather than power which attracted me.  Now in sailing I hate Jetskis and the like!!  Formative years eh?


Posted: 14/10/2005 08:43:59
By: Garry R
Gliding piloted or otherwise has long attracted Yachtsmen. Peter Scott of course, Champion Sailor and Champion Glider Pilot, Renaisance Man, though his introduction of the "Ruddy Duck" in 1948 (Which is about to be shot to oblivion in Europe.Because it interbreeds with Spanish Ducks!) (Funny that if you mentioned racial purity in a human context. Quite rightly you'd be in BIG trouble!)Has dented his conservation credentials though he did believe in the Loch Ness Monster. Any way back to gliding, I believe ex Chairman Robert Harris Glides as does Ken Merron I tried it but couldn't point the thing at the ground it scared me too much. A long way from a rope take way system but the long lengths of elastic used to launch some grown up gliders are something to behold at school we once used the CCF Glider launch elastic (About 50 boys/men to pull it back) to launch the RAF Section Commanders Car, it hit the physics A level Lab and we all got flogged! (the real crime was we were a not in uniform and b mailnly from the Army section. But it was worth it. I calculated that the 0-60 was about 1.5 seconds not bad for a Morris Minor 1000! One day I'll tell the story of our "Super Cannon" 30 years before Saddam Hussein.


Posted: 14/10/2005 09:11:34
By: Ancient Geek
I expect the free flight planes launched from Sentry Hill near Marlow are still out there flying off towards Berkshire and beyond. Months of balsa, dope and high octane fuel lost in a moment.


Posted: 14/10/2005 09:55:34
By: Schoolboy
And then there was a certain Merlin Rocket sailor who built a largish Radio Controlled plane and tired of flour bombing the neighbours, offered his sisters Hampster a ride. Hammy enjoyed it went up again only this time the afformentioned MR Sailor neglected to recharge the batteries and Hammy and Plane were last seen heading towards Holland off Pakefield Cliffs, we know they made it over the Newcombe Sands but after that the final resting place is a mystery!


Posted: 14/10/2005 10:57:59
By: Ancient Geek
hehe - the 4:1 went straight away, that was a pikkie from ebay when I bought the boat.  Replaced the blocks, sheet and added a new ratchet, sounds great :o)

I think the elastic on mine is like the stuff you guys are talking about rather than shockcord. Very thin and nicely stretchy.


Posted: 14/10/2005 15:37:54
By: Stuart
Nowadays Phil Morrison is a very skilled glider pilot.


Posted: 14/10/2005 17:00:06
By: Robert Harris

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