Is anyone or has anyone used dyneema, spectra or any other similar materials for 2:1 jib halyards or any other rigging? |
Yes; Dan tried it for a jib halyard a couple of years ago, but was not confident in it for long where the load reduced its dimension substantially around the halyard sheave! We, and others, have tried it for lowers, but the amount of elongation there is as the knots and splices bed in (I'm not talking stretch here) made it unrealistic, bearing in mind how fine the tuning is on these controls. We fitted vectran lowers for the first race of the champs this year, and they elongated so much, so quickly, that I disappeared below decks to shorten them a couple of feet after about 15 mins sailing (and was sea sick while doing it), and by the time the start came the only way we could stop the mast reverting to kit form as it bent so excessively was to have full lowers, and the mast fully upright! A v strange combination... |
I've made a kicker out of lightening rope and it's great. As Graham mentioned it's good for pullers too, and i'm going to try it as a main halyard after the wire one broke and see if it lasts longer than 6 weeks! |
As previous have re-rigged 22yr old boat with it everyware except jib halliard. mainly used spectra & dyneema you can really reduce diameter and hense weight. good cleats are essential & whip the eye-splices, we have removed the cover sheath to further save weight (we had a lot to lose!)on some of the sheets. Were looking at PBO for jib halliard & shroud adjustment so will note comments with interest. |
I'm reluctant to use it (Lightening rope) on anything that cleats because it will eat the cleat jaws within a few months. It's too hard wearing for that kind of thing! |
Use bungy on everything ,that way when a gust hits you dont have to touch anything.Just hike ! |
I have used a 5mm vectran halyard on an Int 14 with no problems at all. PBO as I understand may have stability problems with UV |
Don't know about that. I once used a piece of 8mm Vectran rope for a mainSHEET, with a small length of it stripped near one end, and the damn thing snapped clean in half right in the middle of the exposed section, no knots or anything. It was a year old. |
??? Cant understand that. I have had Vectran on the puller of both present boat and the last one for some years now with no problems at all, ditto kicker and spinny downhauls, all of which take a fair old load. I have replaced them when they looked a bit scruffy but that after well over a year and no breakages. The plaited rope has been the one I have found works well - lightening rope is I think the same - as the cover of the other frays and parts fairly readily. |
I know. This shouldn't happen, but it did! It was a roll-end piece of 8mm Vectran-cored rope that I was given by a large yacht rigger. Probably used for runner tails and the like. |
Whats PBO? |
It stands for Poly...B.....(really long word)..O....... |
polyphenylenebenzobisoxazole |
Whats PBO normally known as is what i meant :) |
Nothing, just PBO or Zylon. PBO is an abbreviation of the chemical name, Zylon is a brand name of PBO manufactured by Toyobo corporation. |
Lighting is a mix of UHMPE (dyneema or spectra trade names) and vectran. http://www.sail-sport.com/cgi-bin/ss.cgi?&page=Ropes.htm |
PBO |
PBO COATED |
Confirmation that Vectran is suitable for kickers: the new s/s ISP high load ball bearing sheave on our boom exploded last Tuesday as we applied just a tad more kicker - the Vectran was declared the winner! |
I've used the stuff for years with no trouble at all as lower runners on Ocean Racers, Broads River Cruisers, Dragons and anywhere the rules allow, however I've got 50-1 at Ladbrokes that Ellen Mcarthurs rig will collapse, she's such a gallant loser, surely this time she wil not do it?Though I'll be the first to cheer if she does. |